{"id":14296,"date":"2017-09-13T10:44:47","date_gmt":"2017-09-13T14:44:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/?p=14296"},"modified":"2025-08-09T12:18:33","modified_gmt":"2025-08-09T16:18:33","slug":"the-first-of-many-logic-apple-ii-library-disks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/13\/the-first-of-many-logic-apple-ii-library-disks\/","title":{"rendered":"The first of many \u2026 Logic Apple II library disks"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/scruss.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/Logic-5p25-web.jpg\" alt=\"Floppy disk label from LOGIC Apple computer user group\" class=\"wp-image-14297\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TL;DR Update<\/strong> \u2014 The disk images are here: <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/search.php?query=creator%3A%22LOGIC+%28%E2%80%9CLoyal+Ontario+Group+Interested+In+Computers%E2%80%9D%29%22\">creator:&#8221;LOGIC (\u201cLoyal Ontario Group Interested In Computers\u201d)&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/2017\/09\/11\/teh-future1\/\">Apple II post<\/a> from the other day wasn&#8217;t as random as it might seem. Through a friend, I got given not just the Apple IIe previously pictured, but also an Apple IIgs <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">and<\/span> the almost-complete disk library from a local Apple user group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Logic (\u201cLoyal Ontario Group Interested In Computers\u201d\u009d) appears to be defunct now. The Internet Archive has 20+ years of their website <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/*\/logicbbs.org\">logicbbs.org<\/a> archived, but the domain no longer resolves. It&#8217;s a shame if they are completely gone, because user groups contain social history. Once it&#8217;s gone, well \u2026 <em>never send to know for whom the CtrlG tolls; it tolls for thee<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m going to archive as much of the Logic disk library as I can. I&#8217;ve been chatting with <tt><a href=\"http:\/\/ascii.textfiles.com\/\">Jason Scott<\/a><\/tt>, and he&#8217;s keen to see that the disk images are preserved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d never used an Apple II before. They&#8217;re quite, um, <em>different<\/em> from anything else I&#8217;d used. Sometimes hideously low-level (slot numbers!), sometimes rather clever (I\/O streams from any of the cards can control the computer). Since nothing but an Apple II can read Apple II disks, I&#8217;ve got the IIgs running <a href=\"http:\/\/adtpro.sourceforge.net\/\">ADTPro<\/a> sending images via serial to a Linux machine. It&#8217;s pretty quick: a 140 K disk image transfers in around 25 seconds, an 800 K image in just under two minutes. I&#8217;m marshalling the images with <a href=\"http:\/\/applecommander.sourceforge.net\/\">AppleCommander<\/a> and trying to keep everything intact despite having little idea what I&#8217;m doing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Apple II annoyance: searching for the term is harder than it needs to be, as people will try to use the typography of the time and refer to it as \u201cApple ][\u201d, or \u201cApple \/\/\u201d. Even though the Unicodely-correct representation <em>should<\/em> be \u201cApple \u2161\u201d, nobody uses it. I\u2019m going to stick with the two-capital-eyes version \u2018cos it\u2019s easier to type.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TL;DR Update \u2014 The disk images are here: creator:&#8221;LOGIC (\u201cLoyal Ontario Group Interested In Computers\u201d)&#8221; The Apple II post from the other day wasn&#8217;t as random as it might seem. Through a friend, I got given not just the Apple IIe previously pictured, but also an Apple IIgs and the almost-complete disk library from a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7],"tags":[3071,683,544,3070],"class_list":["post-14296","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-computers-suck","tag-appleii","tag-archaeology","tag-archiveorg","tag-disks"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pQNZZ-3IA","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14296","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14296"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14296\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17917,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14296\/revisions\/17917"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14296"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14296"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/scruss.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14296"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}